Dont think breeze will ever get to a point where they have only a fixed cadre of left seat lifers. This page was updated on October 13, 2022 (Quicktake, Payscales, Fleet). I see both churn and growth happening for a quite a while with ample upgrade opportunity. Second, the amount of flights they'll even have to offer in their first year or two is relatively small but not surprising for the type of flying they're doingie. Breeze's plan to use college students enrolled in online courses with Utah Valley University has drawn ire from big labor, and Harteveldt isn't a fan either. Please use the form below to contact our customer service or sales team. Failing that, they were determined to not pay one dime more than their competition. The end result will be lesser pilots and more accidents in the future. Greg enjoys educating and helping pilots improve their professional lives and is passionate about applying technology and new methods to help with traditional challenges. Some will likely say that Breeze Airways proposed pilot pay is the free market at work, with so many pilots furloughed or laid off. Hollywood Burbank Airport and Tweed-New Haven Regional Airport, for example, are Avelo's main bases and offer some protection from carriers since there's a limit to how many flights and airlines the airports can handle. Crash pads are cheap (often shared) housing arrangements that provide pilots with the bare minimum to sleep and rest while waiting for assignments. If thats you, then there is a place for you at Breeze. Regularly scheduled lines mean more days off, more income, the opportunity to pick up extra flying, and the peace of mind of having a set schedule. Domicile Choices At Legacy, Major, and Regional Airlines, east coast domiciles with high costs of living to be the most junior crew domiciles, Availablity of flights between home and domicile, Likelihood of being on reserve for a prolonged period of time, Whether you want to have the option for extra flying and premium pay. Yes, they are using and abusing us. And to survive afterwards, once pilots leave in droves, theyll have to drop their requirements to the lowest legal, AND pay a more than competitive wagetheyre shooting themselves in the left main. Breeze Airways has begun hiring for 85 pilot positions as the airline prepares to launch this year. Im a retired AA captain. Pilot bases are: CAK XNA TUL PIT Pilot Base Official Announcement video Haha love it . I'm a 'union guy' for sure. Our point-to-point network means no connections for an easier, quicker and nicer journey. Expect most Breeze tickets this summer to cost well under $100 one-way When Breeze takes delivery of A220s later this year the airline will offer a first class, and expect those tickets to cost an extra $50-100 one-way Breeze will charge $20 for checked bags on flights under three hours Breeze won't charge change or cancelation fees You get what you pay for folks! They know how lousy the job market is right now, and Im sure they have a very good idea of what the numbers are going to look like, not only now, but in the coming months and years when it comes to out-of-work pilots. Wasn't aware of breeze low pay scale. It will cost $50 to pay to check a bag at the airport instead of doing so online, for example, and a separate $50 fee if a passenger has an agent add the baggage allowance through messaging services. Would you pay your doctor, lawyer, nurse, even architect, engineer, electrician, plumber, welder etc. Major - [Breeze] Airways - Originally Posted by 501D22G Those are the FA domiciles. Airline and cargo operations are fluid and employers will frequently open and close outstations. But the location choice can have significant impact on a pilots quality of life and career advancement. "The biggest concern that I had about the launch announcement is the very short window of time the airline has chosen to give itself between announcing that his flights are open for sale and its first flight," Harteveldt said. We want to hire people who also fit that mold. pilots from the majors who took retirement might jump at the chance to fly again. I have no doubts in my mind that they'll increase it in time, but they need a few years of profitability under their belt first so they can justifiably offer higher hours/pay. Im sure theyd leap at the chance to earn USD given the depreciation of the R$. Such a shame. I know the pay is low, it's a start-up, etc, etc, etc, I get it. This means less time spent commuting and less need for crash pads. And the airline's Airbus A220-300 fleet will offer WiFi as the aircraft will be performing longer flights. Anyone with a college degree need not apply to be a flight attendant, while the only reason to become a pilot at Breeze is if you have no other options pay is roughly on par with regionals, while requirements are significantly higher. What do you make of Breezes approach to hiring? Smaller Embraer E190 and E195 fleet of aircraft are being used initially, with no more than 118 seats on the larger model, allowing Breeze to be more competitive on routes with traditionally low demand. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. Colleges and universities already play a large role in the airline's hiring strategy. I have no idea if they will be paid CA or FO rate while flying the right seat though. Most pilot employers have opportunities to pick up extra flying either for straight up extra pay or with premium pay options such 1.5 times normal rate. So theyre going to get experienced pilots (somewhat), that are already typed, with 1K hrs of 121 time (most likely), not have to pay initial or differences training for them, then pay them sh. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. If Neeleman pulls this off again, I will be impressed. Commuter policies give pilots assurances of no disciplinary actions for not getting to work on time so long as the pilot makes an effort required by the commuter policy to get to work. Not if you wanted good work done. The delay was due to the airline not having its air operator's certificate, or AOC. There is no coercion, there is no exploitation - if the pay is too little, pilots won't join and they'll have to revamp their compensation structure to entice people to join. Our inflight leadership team are always available to support our team members. "More airline competition is needed in the US.". Its not set up to be a career. And the pay doesn't seem half bad considering the industry as a whole and how everyone is making less anyway. American would attempt to get the lowest pay rates in the industry on comparable equipment. FO Adam absolutely nailed it. This is not to fault or say any of my peers who's airlines have gone defunct (through no doing of their own) are underskilled pilots - they are well seasoned vets of an industry that was finally recovering from 9/11, the recession, age 65 rule and now COVID. I know that Breeze is hiring for captain right seat flying, aka the pilot has captain qualifications, but will be flying as first officers until there is enough flying for them to be moved to the left seat. It's that, or these guys and their families starve. 8 hours reserve gets 4 hours of pay $38 per hour. "From the outset, Breeze is going to be confusing customers which, by the way, is not a nice thing to do.". The program, he says, could have unintended consequences like flight attendants that expedite an in-flight service so they can have time to study. Online posts, including anonymous posts and posts made here on APC, have been used in lawsuits against unions. I read a q&a from earlier in the year about tech innovations he's bringing to the table. Disappointed but not surprised. For example, I recently wrote about how Breeze is only hiring flight attendants if they enroll full time in college, and live in company housing. A single-fleet operation keeps pilot training and maintenance costs down, as well as maximizes efficiency in a pilot pool. Visit AirlinePilot.life to learn more about commuting to work as an airline pilot. Not only do we have a fabulous team but our guests are seriously nice!". Yes, they are using and abusing us. Tons of excess pilot supply at the moment. Breeze Does it Better Our Perks Straight to the point. The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. Work schedules begin and end at the domicile where a flight crew is based. Breeze did delay some route launches until later in the summer, which may give it more time to sell tickets. Flying for these rates sets a bad precedent for the rest of the industry. MSP - Minneapolis St Paul Intl. This is a disappointment in many ways. My airline had a trip that left LGA early in the morning to CMH. Ben -- one thing that seems to be missing from your calculus and the comments: equity. Breeze has a long way to go until they are paying too comfy to leave wages. He has had impeccable timing when it comes to starting a new US airline. Great article !!! But, we shall see. This article mentions and quotes minimum monthly guarantee, but fails to show the pay for picking up extra flying. NOW WATCH: The pandemic could change the way we look at transportation here's how cities are reimagining streets with more bikes and fewer cars, defended the program in a prior statement to Insider. NGPA Expo - February 9-10 in PSP Booth 525, Women in Aviation - February 23-25 in LGB - Booth 549, TPNx April 21-22 in MCO, Currently hiring E190/195 and A220 First Officers, E190/195 Captains, and Australian Pilots that hold or have previously held an E-3 visa, New hire classes every month for the E190/195 and A220, Scheduled passenger service on the E190/195 flying consists of day trips (no overnights) with limited flying on Tuesday and Wednesday, Charter business is very robust on the E190/195 Charter flights may operate any day of the week, A220 operates a traditional schedule 7 days per week, Significant growth and expansion planned over the next 5 years, Breeze flies to 30+ cities from coast to coast, Eight A220s delivered as of August 2022 - 73 more to be delivered and options for 40 more, Ejet fleet projected to grow to 30 by 2025, A220 fleet is projected to grow to nearly 60 by the end of 2025, A new training center opened in SLC with one E190/195 simulator and one A220 simulator, $200 million in funding was raised in August of 2021. Harteveldt also says that Breeze may have missed an opportunity to get great talent from the pool of flight attendants that were furloughed during the pandemic, as rival Avelo did. Attn: Airline Pilot Central There are factors to consider when choosing a base. Sign up for our newsletter for the latest tech news and scoops delivered daily to your inbox. They are taking advantage of a market surplus. Analyst Henry Harteveldt is concerned about the airline's route network, high fee structure, and tech-focused model. Greg took a 5 year hiatus from flying and worked in software development and marketing. Has anyone actually had a face to face (or Zoom) interview? Makes sense, and given right now there is a surplus of supply of pilots in the market they are able to lower wages to increase profits and thus be more likely to succeed. Seems oppressive, so they wont be seeing my business. By clicking Sign up, you agree to receive marketing emails from Insider Join our Seriously Nice team and help us take the simplicity of just being nice to new heights. Fly for less money and less stress. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. ATL's Delta Air Lines hub is the world's largest airline hub and . The wont to have pilots on there books, but wont have at the beginnig a lot of flightsSo from a business point it makes sence to have more pilots who only fligh 55h instead of having less pilots with 75h. Neeleman's track record speaks for itself with successes across three countries starting JetBlue Airways, Azul Brazilian Airlines, Morris Air, and WestJet, as well as a guiding TAP Air Portugal in a leadership role. Its unfair pay but it is a fun job and these are weird times. Frankly Im somewhere in the middle here. The Breeze pilots, once hired, will see the minimum hour guarantee as a point of shame and quickly set up union representation. But after all these furloughed guys get hired, who then? For now its all supply and demand compounded with an industry in the toilet. And before some smart guy points out to me that money is the reason for business, think back to business 101 golden ruletreat your employees the way youd like to be treated, and they will go above and beyond to make YOU more money. Both have the same requirements in terms of minimum flight hours but each offers pilots a different lifestyle. This might work at Breeze for now given the state of the airline industry, but somethings gotta give over time here. Take it easy. The article also fails to factor in per diem amounts and the tax advantage that goes with that. Right now I believe there are more pilots than are needed. Whats my take? Breeze Airways will create its fifth operations hub at Bradley International Airport, with the promise of adding more than 200 jobs. He learned his trade at the knee of Mitt Romney. The airline was founded by David Neeleman, who previously co-founded Morris Air, WestJet, JetBlue, and Azul Linhas Aereas. This seems more in line with what they should be receiving for compensation. Why are we encouraging a race to the bottom? An employers commuter policy, usually defined in an employment agreement, can make a significant difference in the stress associated with commuting to work. Breeze says its A220 pilots will be away for two, three, or four days at a time . Breeze Does it Better Our Perks Straight to the point. No one is forcing applicants to accept pay they don't like. Will they get pilots? What's nice about any of that?". Breeze inaugurates cross-country flights on A220's, Breeze inaugurates cross-country flights on new A220's, US airlines attempting to combat shortage, US airlines attempting to combat the pilot shortage, Breeze Airways Gets First Airbus A220 for Layout Experiment, KTPA - Tampa International Airport / Tampa FL. El Segundo, CA 90245, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Meet the Breeze team at upcoming events! The most important sentence in this article is this the only reason to become a pilot at Breeze is if you have no other options. I worked for the now defunct Bar Harbor Airlines in the 80s. Our point-to-point network means no connections for an easier, quicker and nicer journey. Ultra-low-cost airlines like Spirit Airlines and Frontier Airlines have gained negative reputations for customer service, despite efforts to remedy, and both Breeze and Avelo have worked to promote niceness and friendliness in response. Republic/Chautauqua New Deal With US Airways for E-170 and E-190, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The LDS coming from the Beehive State have, at the end of the day, always thought of its team members really as worker bees. I see on their latest pilot job posting on their website the E170/190 type has been moved to the "preferred" section. Others might say its borderline exploitative. "Charge me $3 to print a boarding pass, charge me $50 to check a bag in with an agent. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. Pilot Job Central is a job market that serves as a hub for pilot job searches. By clicking the Send button, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy, and to the use of cookies described therein, and you also consent to the collection, storage, and processing of your data in the United States where the level of data protection may be different from that in your country. But onboard WiFi goes beyond internet browsing and can have some cost-saving benefits for an airline. Mentors will help not only help with the technical aspect of flying for an airline but also ensure candidates have the right "cultural fit" to meet Breeze's values. Today the average annual income for A320 FO's are at incredible $20k. Those rates and minimums will almost certainly guarantee an ALPA swooping-in to negotiate better terms for their members. Breeze spokesperson Gareth Edmonson-Jones says that competing with the airline might be more difficult for the major players. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. The first flights of Breeze Airways are just around the corner and the David Neeleman-founded startup is looking to bring on more pilots in advance of its long-awaited debut. Pilots assigned to the Embraer fleet will return to their base every night instead of spending nights on the road. Anyone have a list of proposed crew bases, no matter how tentative? Neither Airline Transport Professionals, Inc. (ATP) nor any of its data or content providers (such as the airlines listed) shall be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. Position: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee. We pay the least to all our staff! Rude, Fat-Fugly, Nasty, Filthy, Unfit. There are several considerations when looking at potential domiciles. While perhaps not quite as controversial, Breezes approach to hiring pilots is also raising some eyebrows, as flagged by @StringAndRuder and @AirlineFlyer. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Sounds awfully low especially with a 55-hour minimum pay. Your update has been received. "Our program will be very heavily focused on helping them make that transition a little easier than it might be at a bigger airline that doesn't have enough resources to focus," Solomon said. Henry Harteveldt, an industry analyst and the cofounder of Atmosphere Research Group, has been "disappointed" with what he's seen so far. Breeze Airways is a new airline thats expected to launch in the US in early 2021. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. This hasnt been without controversy, though. "No airline is going to give up a micro point of market share to a competitor, whether it's an established airline or a startup, without a fight," Harteveldt said. In the past, he has always favored taking care of his employees. Our business address is: It is difficult for commuting pilots to pick up open flying due to their availability and the extra travel time needed to pick up small increments of flying. Harteveldt has worked for some of the US' leading airlines, both current and former, like American Airlines and Trans World Airlines, and also served as the marketing director for Donald Trump's startup airline, Trump Shuttle. This is a very long thread with a lot of trolls, so forgive me if what I'm asking was answered 50 pages ago. Breeze Airways has disclosed its plan for 70+ aircraft in the next three years, while its network will comprise 70 or more cities by 2024. It takes just minutes to set up your profile and begin matching with available opportunities. Companies like Uber and Lyft rely on device-based communications but it's never been tried before in airlines. If Neeleman pulls this off again, I will be impressed. Most of the routes also don't feature direct competition, giving Breeze a leg up in drawing passengers and stimulating demand. I could have worked for the also defunct Pilgrim Airlines. Haha love it Reply 05-21-2021, 11:49 AM . But even places with tons of lifers like SkyWest still upgrades people and still gets applicants. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. Breeze Airways is finally launching flights but not all are sold on its business model. NOW WATCH: Airline salaries compared to stock buybacks show why so many people are angry at the bailout, What Boeing wants you to know about starting a new airline, according to its step-by-step guide, American Airlines recently retired the Embraer E190 from its fleet in 2020, paid college interns that attend online classes when they're not flying. There are several factors to consider when deciding whether or not to commute: The flights available for commuting will have significant impact on a commuting pilots time spent away from home. LSS, the "free market" (which doesn't really exist) isn't designed to change fast enough for a volatile industry like the airlines. Seat assignments also start at $10, although families with children under 12 can choose their seats for free. "I like the fact that we have a new budget airline that's entering the US that will inject fresh competition that will help compete with price and is hopefully going to provide very exciting jobs for a lot of people," Harteveldt said. If Breeze employees get stock (I'm no insider but assume they will), and Breeze succeeds, they stand to make up later in capital gains potentially much more than they forego today in ordinary income. Breeze is working with college aviation programs to implement "pipeline" programs that put aspiring airline pilots on a track to work at the airline. Neeleman touted Breeze as a "tech company that also happens to fly airplanes," but it's Embraer aircraft are noticeably low-tech. We are no longer sponsoring Visas / E-2 Visas. Cape Air is looking more and more attractive to me these days, especially being able to live in the Is it possible as a new hire to be 4 on and 3 off during reserve? Add to that COVID and these poor guys will have NO CHOICE but to fly for these asshats. A complete picture of pilot career opportunities. Not Germany, France, the UK, Japan, no one. Just one profile allows pilots to apply to multiple employers and to be contacted by employers searching for qualified candidates. I will never fly them, nor will I encourage anyone to work for them or fly them, until they pay real, market rates. Hire new, low hours FO with a salary that is 30% lower than the market on the promise that they will be promoted to captain in 1 year. As a pilot with one of the aforementioned regionals, this is an ongoing conversation. Employers require pilots to stay in an airplane type for a set period of time after being qualified to fly it. This is absolutely exploitive. Breeze plans to operate the program a bit differently by focusing on mentorship from experienced pilots to those still in training. High Flex. Breeze Airways is an American low-cost airline headquartered in Cottonwood Heights, Utah. But in order to be an effective player in the airline industry, it has to survive and thrive, which Harteveldt says isn't guaranteed, even for David Neeleman. They better start changing the pilot pay or pilots will start leaving to China and make real time money up there . If a pilot gets into a successful start up, the long term benefit to quality of life could be substantial and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. "Breeze has basically outlined a list of ways where customers are going to think they're not a very nice airline," Harteveldt said. In the meantime, if you don't like the pay, go see if another airline is hiring. If not enough apply because the pay is too low, then the company can decide if they want to raise their pay. Fly for less money and less stress. Pilot bases are: CAK XNA TUL PIT Pilot Base Official Announcement video. "Breeze is creating unnecessary complexity for itself by having a more complex fleet," Harteveldt said. That minimum guarantee is just that, a minimum. High Flex. Editorial Disclosure: The editorial content on this page is not provided by any entity mentioned herein. They can't profitably or even just realistically offer higher minimums than that at this point because they won't have the volume of flights. Airline Domiciles This interactive map shows airline bases and hubs, and pilot domiciles across the US. "One of our biggest pitches and approaches is: live when you fly and fly where you live," Coleman said. Breeze's. This includes the flight frequency, distance the pilot has to commute, and whether their commute will involve just one leg or multiple legs. Generous contracts of yesteryear reflect a pre-COVID world that is nothing like the current situation. The article also fails to factor in per diem amounts and the tax advantage that goes with that. "The 190 being the same type rating, yes, it's almost kind of a natural step.". It'll have more A220s than E190/E195s, with its Airbus jets to be used every day of the week - unlike its Embraers. "We really are all about [how] nice and kindness goes a long way.". Data and information is provided for informational purposes only. You could sit around half a day, everyday, and not get paid for it. Breeze Airways is finally making its debut on May 27 just in time for Memorial Day weekend and the start of what will likely be a busy summer season. They might not have CASS right away. Crew domiciles end up being staffed by more junior pilots due to cost of living, quality of life considerations, aircraft types operated out that base, where pilots typically fly to out of a base, and trip schedules. Love how the link says "initial-airports" the the title in the article says, Has there been pilot domiciles posted to the public, Position: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee, has there been pilot domiciles posted to the public, to book a ticket, you must have an account. However, if there is a specific domicile you wish to work from it is good to plan airplane types around those that are based in your desired domicile. Breeze will initially fly 118-seat Embraer 195s, but eventually plans to operate a fleet consisting exclusively of Airbus A220s. Candidates give an average difficulty score of 2.6 out of 5 (where 5 is the highest level of difficulty) for their job interview at Breeze Airways. Breeze will be bringing on the Airbus A220-300 later this year and will operate two distinct fleet types. "The core component of a brand promise is consistency," Harteveldt said. With the A220 entering service in early 2022, the company will rapidly expand its network throughout the US and beyond, creating new base opportunities, very attractive lines of flying, very quick upgrades, and excellent quality of life. There could be plenty of pilots typed and timed in the E-jets whod be willing to take this awhile waiting to get (back) to the majors. But, does anyone on here actually work at Breeze? The two airlines couldn't be any more different, however, despite having the same founder. The first consideration is getting off reserve and getting regular lines of flying. Could happen. The Airbus A220-300 will allow Breeze to fly to Hawaii, Europe, and even South America if the airline desires. Harteveldt says that there's nothing stopping a major player like American or Southwest Airlines from matching some of Breeze's routes or lowering fares to those cities in order to compete. If you want to put yourself into a position to for extra pay then living in base is a more realistic choice. This same thing happened in Brazil with Azul. New hire first officers flying . Lots of opinion injected here but believe me they do not have a shortage of applications. Breeze will hire the lowest time, least skilled pilots begging for their first "jet job", just like all the regionals do. This is a prime example of how capitalism is at the cancer stage in the United States, and rapidly approaching stage 4. Either talk about what JBs starting rates were when they launched or write this article in 5 years and Ill think differently. Another reason Harteveldt isn't sold on Breeze's seriously nice attitude is because of the airline's high fee structure. Copyright 2005-2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. While baggage fees are lower than most competitors at only $20 for either checked or carry-on luggage, there are caveats. 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