Was the New Testament Reliably Transmitted from its Authors? Were the same. seeing as you deem him important enough to name your apologetics website after him? Whites comments are not something that Ive spent much time on, but clearly he overstepped a line. Ed, you really need to stop looking in the mirror so much. Not a lot of time is required to get such a minimalist tattoo, however, it is just as lovely as any of the other designs. A quote for the ages. Ray found out about the albino monk assassins weve sent out to stone James White! Its not as if His (infallible) knowledge can simply *pop* into existence. Evangelicals, in particular, can play a spiritual service to White by making this clear to him, since as the pictures themselves illustrate, he is deaf to appeals to charity from Catholics. But to claim theres some comparison within Catholicism is a joke. Can somebody say LAWSUIT??? The conversion of the greatest early Church Father, St. Augustine of Hippo. Even with that many lines, the design is actually quite simple and clean. Thank you. Contact. mary margaret: I believe that both Christie Davies (an Anglican) and the creator of the modern theory of linguistic humor, Victor Raskin (a Jew), both of whom I know, might disagree with me in particulars, but agree in the main. this was just a joke & no accusations were intended.This example suggests that the motivation may be free of any malicious conspiracy against or for James R White By that logic, I have a relationship of some form with Mr. Spock Ive been a fan for years, and have put up posts about him. Assertion 1) Beckwith is a liar. Bowing out. Which would mean that hes comparing himself to the Pope. Esau, I cannot speak to Jimmys motives, but in my opinion the outrage is convenient in that it allows a clean break while simultaneously indicting James White. I didnt say it wasnt needed later on. Every day someone new stands up wild-eyed and excited that they finally figured it out. That many people cant all be wrong absent a huge conspiracy and at this point it seems more charitable to believe that White really is rather off-putting than to conclude that all his opponents are in some sort of sinister league with each other. He also leads Apologias ministry, End Abortion Now, whose goal is to criminalize and end abortion through the work of the local church and state legislation. Thank you and God bless! Akin has not interacted with Dr. White to anyones knowledge as far as the public is concerned. In the meantime, weve pushed this thread up near 750. bill912: huh? Perhaps he actually shows those features you praise elsewhere, but in this matter, they are greatly lacking. Before today, I wasnt even aware of the www.jameswhite.org website which diverted visitors to Catholic Answers. call me Fox like Esau has. I had to get over this idea that a material Church existing in time and place was somehow able to communicate spiritual blessings. And, as he is becoming more stupid, I can only imagine it as a sign that he is moving closer to Rome. I had no wish to align with the whore of babylon, I didnt [then] get litugy, the singing and preaching generally sucked, they had no concept of evangelizing, and way too many inside didnt believe were amazed that I would. so should you all, including James White] Unfortunately, his works have some decent conentbut he lacks the general Christian character. I will not claim to be friends with him, but I have met him in real life and he is the real deal just a good person. 1. The material written and/or performed by humorists tends to be more subtle and cerebral than the material created by stand-up comedians and comedy writers. Would the Bishops at Nicea recognize and accept sola scriptura? To continue to address your White quotations: And then you go off on how he hasnt proven James Whites innocence. You may opt for a design like this, where the tattoo starts with the rho symbol and ends with a beautifully detailed anchor, with the chi in between. Ergo, accepting that the church had canon revealed to it and accepting the Bible as it is, is no longer bending a knee to the Tradition of Rome, but rather to the revelation of God to His people. And thanks for the personal attacks, mary, I really apprecaite you being mean to me when i havent down anything top anyone on here. I just pray no one looks to him to see a reflection of Christs attitude. What you did was vile, unacceptable, and childish. The light heart was laughing. Clark Im not interested in buying any bridges. Wordy and vague, his take on the canon is basically, Well, its all very electrical and scientific. While he may be at times over the top passionate, he has never been deceptive. I am one who in fact still holds a debt against someone who once intentionally did me great harm and never repented. The two actions are neccesarily linked in fulfilling the one purpose of God. Heck, I am part of it for even commenting but its like the accident on the side of the road, you know, the one where you cant help but stare :(. Trinity Debate Official", "Evidence for Special Creation From Scientific Evidence", Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_White_(theologian)&oldid=1141657590, This page was last edited on 26 February 2023, at 04:23. You have made your point abundantly clear: we deserve it. Someone even went so far as to register his name jamesrwhite.org and then point the site to Catholic Answers. Admin Street2: If you cant immediately see that and make amends then no one, knowing that you are capable of this, should engage you in debate or discussions of any kind. William: check out Cy the Cyclopes kitten. Your style is like cotton candy, only without all that painful grit. Youve asked the questions on Whites site and indeed seem to be interested in resolution of those questions. Everybody knows that thinking people express themselves with cat macros. Your inability and/or unwillingness to consider ideas outside of your own conjecture, Oh, and I see White has followed the template over at his blog: (1) stir up trouble with a bonehead statement; (2) act the victim when called on it; (3) change the subject by proffering some hobbyhorse topic/argument; (4) shake his head sadly while professing his allegiance to the Gospel [sic] and noting his opponents assumed allergy to the same; and (5) claim victory, after noting throughout, sotto voce, his obvious merits. For that matter, it might have been nice if you mentioned that I told you where the information could be found. Its Akins Law that includes comparisons with Islamists. Maybe I just dont understand what a bishop is in James Whites denomination. CareBear, ChurchMouse, As with any other tattoo design or symbol, if the alpha and omega tattoo reflects your personal energy and disposition, then it is time for you to make use of at least one of these designs. 2]Cherish and love the Holy Scriptures, being careful to not impose your theological structures upon its message. Everyone has a filter. Everyone who is joined to Christ is under the obligation, the call, to stimulate one another to love and good deeds. All of the category error pussyfooting nicely dodges the real problem with the picture: White states an equivalence between people in the comment thread demanding charity (yes, in a predictable and certainly from his standpoint irritating fashion) with those who use violence and intimidation to silence their opponents. God is with us. But the simplest definition of the word mystic only means one who loves God very much. Obviously you will probably disagree. He is a professor with Grace Bible Theological Seminary, and a pastor at Apologia Church. Mary Kay- I dont think it will work, since the guy keeps on misusing units of logic at whim. So some people have tried to love James White and bring him to life, and he has compared them to persons who hate and try to bring death. Just what is it about certain combinations of notes that make us feel sad, where others make us feel happy? Posted by: CareBear | Aug 10, 2007 10:18:26 AM Now, dont get me in trouble with your hubby, Foxy! Either youre accusing Esau of definitely doing what you claim or the backpedalling second comment where you make a presumptuous assumption about Esau then qualify it by saying IF he did it intentionally, then he was a liar. It was quite the horrendous act and I pray White comes to see that and to repent, for his own spiritual wellbeing. While the people who claim to be on his side are yammering for the next stunt. Regulars here know that I try to show restraint, but I have to tell you that those grace and peace lines had me reaching for the barf bag. Every single non-denomination of Protestantism, on the other hand, is a doctrine of salvation unto itself open only to her vaunted members who have the cunning to see Pastor So-and-so is right. Ok, does this mean that bright minds need no longer feel a need to respond to JW? Hoist, petard. You know how Jimmy always wins those Catholic blog awards? To whom did he reveal this? He allows those who do not repent to choose freely to go to hell. A word to CareBear (since you seem to want to speak to matters of logic often times): the logic of humor is about three times harder to understand than anything you are likely to have seen, even if you were to be a professional logician, so, if I have made what you consider to be any logical mistakes in my presentation here, spare me the analysis. Its kind of ironic that you should make the point that there are Catholics who dont act like robots and merely follow the whims of the Pope like mindless automatons. [25], He is married and he and his wife have two children. I do think you have a point. About Esau, I cannot speak to Jimmys motives, but in my opinion the outrage is convenient in that it allows a clean break while simultaneously indicting James White. I wonder if anyone will do so this time. Roman Catholics differ on as many issues as Protestant Evangelicals do. Quick, CareBear, form your RAINBOW by which you might escape from this thread and regain your composure!!! Your post, Mr. Smart, is disgusting for the same reason. It goes double if he/she/they all happen to be Catholic. imputed Both the alpha and omega are quite prominently depicted with shades of red and some green streaks. Youre not making a fat load of sense and youre comming off even more deserate with this one. I wont be shoved aside by such a tactic. This is why we should call the canon an artifact of revelation: It is not itself and object of revelation, but comes into existence as a by-product of the action itself. For shame. They had a sacred book that provided an explanation of history which so far transcended every other explanation as to be unquestionable. Its the Vast Angelwing Conspiracy, Jeremiah! *high fives everyone in the room* That means the material cannot be evil. In discussions lets not give in to anger but rather focus on charity. Those 8 questions belong are enough for several threads. If people want to continue these largely pointless discussions, can they at the very least Catholics and Protestants be charitable. Laser, asked CatholicWayne on | Aug 11, 2007 12:55:01 PM First you say hes judging James White to be innocent, then you say hes assuming his innocence. So you should be thankful for the checks-and-balances provided by those of us outside your walls. But after that the lists are made up of anything that comes to hand; of anything that can be put in the same catalogue without being in the same category. I will try to be more circumspect in identifying my addressee. That is, was there a single bishop in attendance who believed, for example, in transubstantiation? Firstly, Dr. Whites site is a bit behind the times technologically and does not have the ability for comments to be added. 2023 Alpha and Omega Ministries. Reality. Being unreasonable yourself by not taking in ALL the facts of the case only the one that seem to cast negative light on Jimmy Akin (in y our opinion) but have yet to examine evidence as revealed in the debate between White v. Beckwith This thread was about his humor If you are looking for intriguing alpha omega tattoo ideas, then you are going to end up in love with this one! Its pretty clear bill912, it would only take light reading to understand Whites book. We have been sucked into it because White needed something else to direct his attention to. Thank you so much for your answer! On the contrary, the greater the outrage, the more delicious the cake. Anon, Besides, there are nuts in every faith or philosophy. And so Catholics began to call themselves Catholic. In that same century St. Augustine said: All heretics wish to call themselves Catholics; yet if you ask any of them to direct you to a Catholic church, he will not direct you to his own! Simple. This is a little not nice, but: Tim, I had to laugh at your comparison with Finding Nemo, so that was funny I dont know about his long post as a whole, but I thought that one sentence really captured the essence of the thread. How do you read it? Name Server: So far, you have declined to explain. By the by, http://www.jameswhite.org for the CA website url? You believe what it says to you, and the Protestants believe what it says to them. Trying to shame White beyond his own personal offense, though, was wrong. It is a thing and gnostic thing were his words. How are we mere mortal men to know who to believe when they claim to have been so inspired? Dr. White welcomes your calls at Am I close enough to him to be sure hes not just pretending? Missed Vances post before I got out the door. Indeed, her own topic of a nagging, impatient temperament. Box 37106 Well if wikipedia says itit must be true. Alpha & Omega Ministries 2.7K views Streamed 9 years ago Sermons and Teachings Play all Dr. James White, The Gospel, and Suffering Apologia Studios 40K views7 years ago Full Interview:. Read the post. Just who is the accuser here, exactly??? Your inability and/or unwillingness to consider ideas outside of your own conjecture, Greg, Realize that the only place an omnipresent God cannot be is in the heart of those who refuse Him. But I have read the Bible quite a lot. Hey, Nonny, use a name, would you? As I have asserted before, I doubt few here have actually ever litened to a White debate. White ridiculed Beckwith, Jimmy pointed out problems with Whites arguments (not in a very charitable manner, honestly), White compared Jimmy and the people here to Islamic extremists. And as I noted elsewhere, I used to love reading his materials. On IRC he would have the cult of White; he would tell people no one can beat him in debate. As Ive stated previously: Heres some advice on that matter: Do not conform yourselves to this age but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and pleasing and perfect.. But I dont think it *hurts* anyone to debate apologetics in this thread, Mr. Spock. Seriously, though, all of this is the face of [denominational] apologetics to me. Well, then. The only thing that keeps the trolls here is our inability to honestly express gratitude to White for the credit he bestows upon Holy Mother Church and, by extension, us. With each passing phase of His unfolding of revelation in Scripture, canon (infalible) remained current and infallible, fully reflective (by necessity) of the ongoing work of enscripturation. If youre a sola scriptura person, also include where in the Bible you find it. It was a pretty hard question to answer as you might imagine. During weeks and months when yet another suicidal kid had to be wedged in when there wasnt time to begin with, times when the important gets dropped because if the new situation isnt attended to, someone might come to serious harm or possibly die. I suppose such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though. Might want to go back to the start of it to follow the argument, rather than going off on tangents. $1099. We have to learn to do our work as independently of these considerations as possible. With James Renihan vs. Marcus Borg and John Dominic Crossan, With Geoff Volker vs. Robert Strimple and Gary Johnson, With Robert Zins vs. Scott Butler and Robert Sungenis, Islam and Christianity: A Matter of Denial in Answering Islam:Countering Terror with Truth. And I do understand that this blog represents, to a certain degree, you feelings, and should be more raw than a formal article or text. Jeff co-hostsApologia Radioand Apologia TV, both of which garner followers throughout the US and internationally. Almost everyone involved has behaved shamefully. Fuller Theological Seminary, and a Th.M., a Th.D. I gotta admit, youve made your argument. Even as David also describeth That you cant understand that displays that you are ignoring the facts in order to fiegn disgust, or youre just plain unable to deduce facts reasonably from the current situation. And lo, I heard from a nearby house, chanting and repeating over and over, Take up and read. As a Protestant, Im ashamed of James Whites actions. He is a Pastor/Elder of Apologia Church in Arizona. I admire your charity. If youve already said your list of books is divinely inspired, then you (i.e. Mary is correct that if you had posted something specific, it would be easy to copy and paste, just as Ive done with your comments. Late have you come in this debate that has raged over the past decade or so. Dr. Beckworth, however, has not slung mud. Nowhere in any of this distraction are we dealing with the matters of God and salvation. Way to major in minors there, sport. Marys on this thread. It seems like the lady doth protest too much, methinks. It was inappropriate. Gospel to be saved (Mark 1:15). Examine the situation with the url Your bad was imputing malicious intent on the most tenuous of circumstantial evidence. Mea culpa for my role in this. HehI just had a mental image of Akin and White in a debate, each posing questions to the other, and each responding with I answered that in my book insert title. and never actually responding beyond that. Humbly, pits of darkness! All Rights Reserved. Sorry to ruin yalls frenzy fest. Perhaps he can use this not as a tit for tat, but as a chance to expand. Appeals to emotion dont suit you well. Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. Theo no worries, were not very formal here. Beautiful Savior Esau, Thats an act of charity if ever there was one. He is allowing Satan a stronghold in his ministry, and I think he will find that ministry will not be as fruitful. There is no such correlation between the two, as anyone with the faintest grip on history can say. Box 5121 I surmised that much. Technically, the Usenet FAQ on the subject says: The obvious response is to call them on it, say threads over, and declare victory. He is the author of more than twenty books, a professor and an accomplished debater. Posted by: CareBear | Aug 9, 2007 11:02:08 PM And way more amusing than the actual photoshop. Esau: We deserve it! You have to expect to encounter such things with fallen human nature what it is. The only thing that keeps the trolls here is our inability to honestly express gratitude to White for the credit he bestows upon Holy Mother Church and, by extension, us. What does is when it isnt intended as serious even by its author Can we give it a rest, just for a day. Name Server: You have to neccessarily assume all Muslims are terrorists in order to draw the conclusion that these, in the picture, must be, despite no evidence pointing to the affirmation of such an assumption. Dont you?. Admin FAX Ext. In Numbers 21:4-9, the people complained and died when snakes bit them. 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