Find one in your country/region to avoid paying high shipping fees. Answer (1 of 2): Hard to answer. Theyre respectably sized, really. How's it sit? Between 1990 and 1997, German BattleTech licensee FanPro, who would later also be the game's English-language publisher for a time, reproduced Map Sets 2 through 5 and sold them as GeoTech I through IV in Germany. Press J to jump to the feed. [9], The Inner Sphere, however, showed little to no interest in developing their own ProtoMechs. "Men, fetch the Urbanmechs. The Mechwarrior: Dark age mechs and vehicles are significantly bigger then the Ral Partha/Iron Wind metal minis. The four of them together form the tournament map. Since this product was not published directly by a BattleTech IP owner or licensee, its status as an official product is arguable. I try not to think about it to much. "There's a difference between the soldier and his fight. In BattleTech, spacegoing WarShips are often classified with the following terms, based on their role. Inner Sphere scientists also lacked the technical knowledge to recreate the special internal structure, armoring and heat sinks which went into ProtoMech construction, which would have resulted in bulkier, less-effective units. evilauthor. This page was last edited on 4 February 2023, at 22:56. Standing only half the height of a BattleMech, the smaller units would mass only one-tenth that of the larger machines. German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech II" (see below). About 8 to 14 meters, depending on the 'Mech. Battletech: Hardware Studios Dropships size comparison & next paint schemes Cranky Old Gamer 2.77K subscribers 2.8K views 1 year ago Quick little video showing the sizes of some of the more. Maps included: River Valley, Large Lakes #2 (double-sided). A Gundam Particle cannon is the comparable damage to a capital ship weapon, and vaporizes all the armor it touches, taking out entire mechs in a single shot, absolutely coring them completely. Posted 03 November 2016 - 09:24 AM. Mechs (height) Light => Commando (25 ton) = 9m Medium => Enforcer (50 ton) = 12m Heavy => Grashopper (70 ton) = 14m Assault => Banshee (95 ton) = 15.2m Vehicles (length) Beyond that, it's up to the designer to fit it all together in a manner that functions, regardless of how tall it ends up being. ProtoMechs can carry most of the same weapons and equipment as found on 'Mechs, although instead of carrying standard missile launchers they mount groups of missile tubes together. [11] The game can be played on essentially any terrain. The back was a blank hex board in earlier editions; such blank playing fields are not considered tournament-legal maps though. However, this direct connection also means than the pilot can feel "pain" inflicted on their machine via neurological feedback not unlike that suffered by MechWarriors. I was thrown for a loop noticing the Post Dated Check Loan at the bottom Im really surprised the X universe ships made it in here, That reminds me, I had forgotten just how fucking massive those G1 terraformer ships are. The first HexPack (occasionally also spelled as two words: "Hex Pack") was released in 2010 and heralded a new style for maps, which were now printed on thick, double-sided gameboard-style cardboard with vinyl covering, with different maps printed on the two sides. The EI control system laid the groundwork needed by Smoke Jaguar scientists for controlling the ProtoMech. This page was last edited on 3 December 2022, at 07:42. I can't cite a source, but I'm fairly certain 9.5m is way too short for a SHD. Thanks guys, appreciate all the advice and knowledge. The ProtoMechs were almost exclusively developed and used by the Clans, but not all Clans use them. Not sure if the game is still made, I believe it isn't, but you can find the terrain on the second hand market (like Ebay). Also benefits from 3d terrain on top/books under. I've had lots of problems with this too. when just looking at the two together you know it's not true. Mechs are BIG. FanPro product #35002 was released in 2005. Some hobbyists love to build giant terrains where even 1/100 scale mechs would look relatively small. [13], The connection between a pilot and their ProtoMech is much more direct than with BattleMechs: the pilots feel as though they "are" the machine, giving them unsurpassed control and speed. This is great! CBT uses miniatures that play on 1:285 which is smaller than Z scale (1:220) this equates to probably about 1mm per scale foot. There was one such map for each (Light, Medium, Heavy and Assault-class) "Solaris VII Action Pack" set and one for the "Youngblood Training Field" that went with the Atlas and Marauder promotional pieces. Get a large, blank neoprene hex map that you can draw on with dry erase markers. Additionally, the Proto's small size makes it harder to hit, and even if it loses an arm or head the unit can remain combat effective. Image size. Maps included: City (Skyscraper), City (Hills/Residential) #1 (double-sided). (Where if we present human can figure out buildings 40-50 stories easy, future human must have like hundred stories buildings . Even more so when the subject is infantry carriers. Buy digital, crop and print on neoprene for about $100 all in. Space Pirate Captain Haarlock. I used the blue for cutting out lakes, ponds and rivers, greens for light/heavy trees, black/gray for buildings, roads and city base layer. The Reinforcements: Clan Invasion boxed set includes one unique, double-sided 36 x 22 full-color game map focused on Twycross. You could also put plexiglas or lexan over the top for additional $. Scale in battletech miniatures is an iffy thing, even within figures made within a similar time frame, I wouldn't fret about it too much. A HumVee is as heavy and big as a tank!" - Bob Ross. Mechs are tall and bigbut scaleing on the minis are nowhere near exact. That said, there isnt a ton of variation between the CGLs and IWs. The guy specifically asked for maps, not for instruction on not using them. FanPro product #10990, released in 2003. I always justify it with things like ff armor is bulkier than standard, xl engines are bulkier than standard. WH40K - Imperim of Man: - Space Marine Terminator Armour (Exosuit) - Imperial Knight (light Mech) - Warhound Titan (medium Mech) - Reaver Titan (heavy Mech) - Warlord Titan (assault Mech) - Imperator Titan (super-heavy Mech) Image details. Independence Day. The Blood Spirits were the first Clan to begin a full-blown training program. Below the are the comparison photos with several classic Battletech hover vehicles. I dimly recall 12m. Note: I should really, just reformat, and report the maps to be ready to print by inked. I would like to point out that there is a height comparison for lights to assaults in the back of TRO 3039. they are compared to the height of a typical human. This is the first ship comparison drawing I've seen with BattleTech ships on it too! Afterwards, the line reverted to just "BattleTech". [1] Because of the somewhat diffuse criteria associated with each class and role, the classification is arbitrary and ultimately rather subjective. Count the heat hawk as an axe. The printed size of a standard mapsheet is 22 inches by 18 inches (not 22 by 17 as many rulebooks suggest). The standard mapsheet layout has remained unchanged from the original Battledroids edition through to the latest editions, though there have been cosmetic changes. [2] Under AeroTech rules, each hex on the low altitude map corresponds with a mapsheet at the ground level. Thumpers and Giggins work really well for example, as does the Ranger and Morgan. They can look very good, but tend to be pricey. Other board games in the BattleTech universe have generally used mapsheets that are printed to the same size hex size as the original mapsheet, even though other games have represented different distances per hex: The mapsheets included with BattleForce originally represented 180m per hex[4] compared to the 30m per hex of standard BattleTech. Mech minis are of kinda inconsistent scale anyways. Because of their size and the specialized nature of their construction and components, ProtoMechs cannot utilize XL engines, Endo-Steel, ferro-fibrous armor, Targeting Computers, Double Heat Sinks or MASC (though they do have access to a superior alternative to MASC, in the form of the ProtoMech Myomer Booster). Besides six individual maps, the MapPack Flatlands Terrain Set was published that combined those six maps for a lower price. Terrain rules. I haven't been able to really find anything on my own so I'm turning here to see if you guys know anything that would help. It's only 36" wide so you may need two pieces to cover larger tables, and over time it can wear a bit. A map set focused on the Battle of Tukayyid, with four double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. FanPro product #35012, released in 2005. However, CGL reverted to paper maps by 2018 for cost reasons.[6]. [1], This basic mapsheet, two of which are included in each boxed set, is a standardized size and has an addressing scheme printed on the map in a staggered row and column format. The Solaris VII: The Game World boxed set, published in 1991, included maps for five arenas (with one arena requiring two sheets), one for each of the major houses. You can also get them printed, as is via Poster Print factor linked on the thread with less modification. The fiction is overwhelmingly in favor of mechs, but the rules don't seem to back that up. We have an interrogation to attend to." Although the MechWarrior: Dark Age clix game was designed as a miniatures game forgoing gaming maps in favor of miniature terrain, WizKids produced a number of mapsheets with the usual hex grid for various Solaris VII arenas. Does anyone know if there is a chart or table or something somewhere that lists the height of each mech in meters? I love hexes waaay too much to ditch them. Unlike the bulky Elementals, this new breed would need to be smaller so that they would be able to fit into the cramped confines of a ProtoMech's torso. Every time I see it I see something I've never seen before! It's your world. A high-quality neoprene extra-large map set, with one mega-sized, 72 x 48" double-sided BattleMat. Grasslands #2, Grasslands #3, Desert #2 and Desert #3. (see Other maps below)The 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set and Hex Pack: Lakes and Rivers were the first products to feature a new generation of thick, vinyl covered double-sided map boards from 2010 onwards. since the novels and the fluff also describe some as being larger and smaller than others, this is probably an average figure, not a universal one. As luck would have it, the decision proved fortuitous: Clan aerospace pilots' small bodies allowed them to easily fit inside the cockpit of a ProtoMech, while their brains and circulatory systems, bred to withstand high-G maneuvering, could better endure the negative side effects associated with the EI system. You gotta fit a dude in the head. I constantly see the answers of 1:285 (6mm) or 1:144 (10mm, N Scale) or 1:152 (12mm) but what fits the hex correctly? It has no impact on gameplay. Falls under "quality control". Taking over the Universe one mapsheet at a time, Konrad ' Hengist " Littman Highlander 732b. Additionally, the Proto's small size makes it harder to hit, and even if it loses an arm or head the unit can remain combat effective. Two Strana Mechty "Grand Melee" Circle of Equals BattleMat. From 2002 until 2008 the various game supplements, including map sets, were produced under the "Classic BattleTech" moniker to differentiate them from supplements for the "MechWarrior: Dark Age" brand. Huge difference, since the clix are about twice as large. And you'll likely want additional 3d terrain to put on top. I bought a several yards of various greens, browns, tans, blue, black and grey. generally, the differences between lights and assualts hasn't been height, it has been width and general bulk.. assualt mechs tend to be chunkier, with thicker body parts, more barrel shaped chest areas, etc. I could've sworn there was a "line up" of a mech and several dropships do demonstrate the differences in their sizes, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon. I've never seen one of these with Battletech on it! Plus the Soviets have long proved that there are ways to pack people tighter into vehicles than the US army does it. The ONLY way to Scale the Mech would be by Volume. The zaku is a jumping heavy in battletech with a hand mounted autocannon. Basically, it needs to be big enough to fit the cockpit and engine/gyro. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. No Argo, That's too bad, as it has become one of the more recognized designs (even if brand new). Captain; ProtoMechs nine tons and under are also not equipped with ejection systems, and cannot dump ammunition in an emergency. BattleTroops was one notable departure from this printing convention, instead using a layout of points in a triangular (or arguably hexagonal) pattern rather than a hex-grid. They're the white drawings to the right of the giant purple triangle. There a nice 'Mech / vehicle scaling chart in TRO: 3039. The casting is excellent. The infantry are comprable in size, but mounted differently. They may become reluctant to leave their machine, and may even start to believe the ProtoMech is their own body.[14]. Includes all maps from Map Sets 2 through 4. Originally, officially, mechs ranged from a little under 10 meters to 15-16 meters. A bunch of plastic, hexagonal terrain that you can build in different ways for every battle. I still wake up screaming when I think about the infamous warlord. [12], ProtoMechs mass between two to fifteen metric tons and stand anywhere from four to six meters in height, with the cockpit mounted in the upper chest. ~Orin J. Im mostly interested in the 3039 era mechs. [6][7][8] On the other hand, I have 10mm terrain for another wargame and my mech minis look ok on the board as long as I don't compare them to windows and doors. Kinda bummed they didn't include the real big ship class from 40k, though. Most of these terms have survived since the Age of Sail, and were updated to reflect the realities of space combat. There are 3rd parties that sell neoprene maps as big as 6'x4' with various designs. The map is marked "Casus Belli 1994 Carte conue par Michal Salicetto, dessin Bernard Bittler BATTLETECH est un jeu dit par Jeux Descartes sous licence FASA". So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. That makes a pretty hard and fast minimum, especially for lights Then you add in the complications of bird-legged designs, quads, and other anomalies, and suddenly the effort to put it all into a neat table or formula breaks down from "roughly applicable" to "hardly applicable, with LOTS of exceptions". And how Huge the ATF went with the Valhalla, bigger than a standard gate. Some, like the Siren, use their high speed for recon work. "The rules technically allow all sorts of bad ideas." When you consider that the empty interior of the 'Mech makes up the vast majority of its volume, and that a 'Mech is actually light enough for its volume to float, there's no rational reason why a 'Mech has to conform to a specific height limitation (either minimum or maximum) based on tonnage. Blood Spirit ProtoMech Hydra with the pilot. I also like the smaller size of the old unseens. Create maps that suit your needs. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Beyond these it should be noted that some products like the Turning Points series typically include maps such as individual planetary maps for the worlds featured. Per pg20 Total Warfare, 'Mechs "stand eight to fourteen meters tall". In addition, punch-out map pieces of various sizes are included to modify the maps as well as a booklet with scenarios and rules expansions for the basic game from Tactical Operations. Beyond the aforementioned classes, Strategic Operations, page 10, establishes a distinction between Large WarShips and Small WarShips, with the latter defined as any vessel smaller than 750,000 tons. As this is the heavy tank it fits in well with the larger BT scale. Hex sides were printed with various colors to show the changes in terrain features and elevations that could affect the use of certain abilities and equipment. For nearly a day and a half we were an island of resistance in a sea of Falcon Green. GeoTech I, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 2), GeoTech II, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 3), GeoTech III, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 4), GeoTech IV, 1997 (German edition of Map Set 5). Additionally, though the highly-advanced heat sinks used by ProtoMechs means they never build up heat from firing their weapons or moving, they are more adversely affected by extreme temperatures, including fire and Inferno ammunition, than 'Mechs. Cubed square law means the bigger the structure the exponentially weaker it becomes. Cookie Notice BattleTech MegaMat Display at Gen Con 2021. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Meaning, you won't even see them if they walk around in downtown Manhattan. But vinyl maps are less awesome. When Task Force Serpent first encountered ProtoMechs during the Battle of Huntress, they were completely unknown, and the task force gave them designations in the field. So I guess the answer is 1:285 (6mm) is "considered" default but the other two are likely to work. Most of the neoprene/vinyl battle mat companies can put a 1.25 or 1.75 hex overlay on any of their mats, and generally can be had in 4'x4', 4'x6' and sometimes 4'x8' sizes. I was disappointed in Ironwind's official infantry and found this supplier to be superior in quantity, price, scale, and quality: https://www.pfc-cinc.com/solar_empire_marines.html Knowing that their Khans would not even consider full-scale production of ProtoMechs until they were proven effective in combat, the Smoke Jaguar scientists and geneticists began working on the project in secret, understanding that it could be years before their work could be revealed. 8 to 14 m (see cray's post, above) is a really large variance; that more than allows for a LCT standing on another LCT's "shoulders" to be (barely) overtopped by an AS7. Sets with other playing maps were later produced as game supplements. Silent Running. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. FASA product #1683, released in 1997. 3. add battletech.exe process to exclusion list for windows defender. . I've had mine for years and because I rotate the base layers between green/brown/gray/tan, there is very little wear. So now enter the "General Size Comparison Chart" from Technical Readout: 3039 (2009), that's pretty recent. Dubbed ProtoMechs, the ultimate goal of these machines was for a Point of five, working in unison, to be as effective as a BattleMech, while requiring less than half the amount of construction resources. 1,471,925 C-bills Technical specifications 'Mech type Inner Sphere BattleMech Mass 30 tons Chassis Republic-R Armor Durallex Medium Engine Leenex 60 Communications System Dalban Interact Targeting Tracking System Dalban Urban Heat Sinks 11 single Speed 32 km/h Jump Jets Pitban 6000 Armament 1x AC/10 1x small laser BV (1.0) 454 BV (2.0) 504[1][2] The "Woodland" map was first published with BattlePack: Fourth Succession War in 1998 before it was included in Map Set #6 two years later. [3]Total Warfare provides rules how maps may (or may not) be placed to form bigger playing fields, and provides that in the absence of actual mapsheets (e.g. Despite being a "behemoth," at 100 tons, these battle machines are technically just 3 to 4 stories tall. A first, unnumbered GeoTech set was published in 1990 containing a specially produced (German) BattleTech rules booklet with excerpts from the BattleTech Manual rulebook and the Mountain Lake, Scattered Woods, Desert Hills and City Ruins maps, i.e. They are also easy to store and transport. The Clan Invasion boxed set includes two unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game maps. I'm assuming you mean the WizKids "Clix" versions and the IWM versions? Someone must've put a ton of time into this with how many ships are represented on here. Of course CBT has never been about scale really but using the Clix as CBT probably wouldn't be too good of an idea. [5], ProtoMechs achieved their baptism of fire during the Battle of Huntress, which was also when Smoke Jaguar Khan Lincoln Osis first learned of the program. parts of Map Set 2, plus four plastic paper clips. In the wake of the Dig, Defend, or Die 2018 Worldwide Event, a series of related PDF products was released by CGL that included the scenario's Terrain Set of four newly created maps under the "Map Pack" moniker. The BattleForce mapsheet is a double size mapsheet, being exactly twice the width, in hexes, of the standard BattleTech mapsheet, with columns from 01XX to 32XX. Conversely, some Renegade Legion products contain mapsheets that were never officially published for BattleTech, but can be used for BattleTech nonetheless. So stupid big is stupid without magic technology and materials. FASA product #1618. While the materials for the 2020 Worldwide Event was not published, four newly created maps were designed for the scenario, and provided for those who participated in the event. You Need Space To Shine So what does a cannon need to lob a round as far as it can? JavaScript is disabled. The latter was the site of a large battle and is meant for playing on a different scale akin to BattleForce. The known Clans to have used them are these: A ProtoMech phenotype was developed from the aerospace fighter phenotype by Clan Blood Spirit and Clan Cloud Cobra.[25][26][27]. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on aerospace, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. Two additional weapons or pieces of equipment can be mounted on the torso, though their combined weight cannot exceed two tons, and each arm can mount one weapon no greater than a half-ton in weight. His outrage at having been uninformed about the secret project was tempered by his Clan's dire needs and the good performance of the ProtoMechs against desperate odds. It keep them from shifting around too much and provides some protection. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Somewhere between dawdle and a Leviathan full of overkill. With BT maps is you generally use one map per person, per lance/star. Some use bulkier materials, some don't. Some clickie minis work pretty good alongside CBT-scale stuff. 'Let the poetry of darkness be written henceforth!. The Irresponsible Captain Tyler. When something as simple as size keeps shifting from 3 to 5+ stories in height it gets a bit difficult to concentrate ;-). Released first in 1988 with cardboard maps and again in 1991 with paper maps, with the same product number. By that time still were produced and used some first-generation ProtoMechs. In 1993 an expansion to the aforementioned boxed set was published as the sourcebook titled Solaris: The Reaches. To me, if they're close it's good enough. EDIT: Just noticed above the BattleTech ships are the ships from freakin' WALL-E! Nonetheless, as the hexes are printed to the same size on paper and use the same map symbology the maps can be used interchangeably between these various BattleTech scales. I really wish that were the case. [3], However, the problem of finding suitable pilots was harder to overcome. I spend way too much time zooming in on stuff. Clan Coyote and Clan Blood Spirit were among the first to adopt the ProtoMech and pursue its development with enthusiasm, the Spirits especially, as they suffered a big lack of resources. Yes, a Battletech PPC can vaporize 0.66 tons of armor. [citation needed]. I do not see Traveller ships on there anywhere. Or, as the next source, there are 'Mech blueprints. Make sure you have at least 40GB free space on the drive you're installing BTA to; the launcher cache takes up roughly 25GB and the mod files themselves are about 15GB. It keep them from shifting around too much and provides some protection. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In 2017 Ulisses Spiele released a new, original BattleTech Starterbox boxed set (not to be confused with the previous "Einsteigerbox"). In early 2013 Catalyst Game Labs began publishing the MapPack series, PDF editions of previously published maps. FASA product #1610; also colloquially known as the "Map Set #1". All the official TT sources stay within the same general size ranges that has always been the same. So other ones will look here first. Clix is played on N scale 1:160~ where a 1/16th of an inch is a scale foot. Is this true? Those equipped with arms are also unable to flip or reverse them, requiring that they twist their torso to hit opponents directly behind them.[13]. The official height of a Mech has always been a discussion point, some official products have given different heights for certain Mechs, licenced products (like computer games) have given a plethora of conflicting heights for Mechs, and the official miniatures are so out of scale that it isn't funny. During the Dark Age the ProtoMech appears to be used exclusively by Clan units. I like using cheap poster frames for two and four maps. The only known combat deployment of these hybrid ProtoMechs was during the Blakist strike against the Capellan Confederation world of Necromo in late 3071 and it is not known if they were the first of their kind or a technological dead end. A map set focused on unusual biomes, with two double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. It should have had. Unlike classification, the distinction between Large and Small WarShips does have certain effects under the game rules. German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech I" (see below). I am sure this is on here somewhere but I am to tired and lazy to look. ), Your BattleTech News Roundup For January, 2023, Your BattleTech News Roundup For December, 2022, https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=WarShip_classification&oldid=937185. Edit - if you are using any of the recent Catalyst campaign books, these maps will be used. At the same time, Smoke Jaguar geneticists began the task of creating a suitable breed of pilot. it's a bit comforting knowing that to fire we're a same color- flammable. - jklantern. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on Strana Mechty, with one double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. FASA product #1663, released in 1991. For Classic Battletech, I think most "standard" games use Battle Value 2 (BV2). There are fifteen columns, 01XX through 15XX, and there are nominally 17 rows, XX01 through XX17. [1] Because of the somewhat diffuse criteria associated with each class and role, the classification is arbitrary and . Your friendly neighborhood Periphery pirate! Kartenset 1: BattleForce & Scattered Woods, Kartenset 2: Desert Hills & Rolling Hills 1, Kartenset 5: Open Terrain 2 & CityTech Map, Kartenset 6: River Valley & Rolling Hills 2. The Centurion mapsheets fold out to the equivalent of two BattleTech maps. When there is, the CGLs tend to run a little larger. when playing on other hex terrain), one "board" translates as 17 hexes for determining range. Classic BattleTech (board game)map Original 1984 Battledroidsmap The standard mapsheet layout has remained unchanged from the original Battledroidsedition through to the latest editions, though there have been cosmetic changes. So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. Thanks to you both, that does help. Maps included: Large Mountain #1, Deep Canyon #1 (double-sided). Includes the maps from Map Sets 5 and 6, plus Planetary Assault Maps 1 and 2 from BattleForce 2 and the BattleSpace map. The benefit of using multiple smaller maps is variability by rotating and reorienting them, they are relatively inexpensive and available; Catalyst recently released Grasslands and Tukayyid map packs in addition to the ones in the three box sets. The Problem with those Side by Side Graphs is that it's a 2D picture of a 3D Model. and printing them via Inked Gaming on a neoprene map (neoprene maps are totally worth it). The A Game of Armored Combat boxed set includes two unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game maps, with maps called Grasslands #2, Grasslands #3, Desert #2 and Desert #3. (Disregarding the autocannon for the purpose of this discussion.) The ability to give the pilot direct neural control eliminated the need for a gyroscope and full-sized cockpit. The hyphen that was sometimes used in older German TRO titles (e.g. Using the original mapsheet art, and sized for compatibility with the original printed sheets and newer Hex Packs alike, they are meant as a PDF game aid to be printed out as required. According to Strategic Operations, page 10, WarShip classes are roughly defined as follows: Other subclasses or designations exist, such as "troop cruiser" or "pursuit cruiser", though they can usually be placed in one of the above classes. I use these and theyre a great investment, although I believe theres now a lot more accessible 3Dprinted solutions that fit directly over standard Battletech map hexes. The Ishiyama map was intended to be cut in quarters and then randomly arranged each match to reflect the unknown layout of the arena. New Btech infantry (and the original K and D Infantry) sculpts are done in N-scale for more detail. 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