OK, we got the sarcasm out of the way. In Reply to: Ford Wrench Identificationposted by Mike of Mars on May 18, 2001 at 16:22:37: That Ford script wrench was made in the late 20's. A-17016 (9/16" x 5/8") is the part number. Contact. Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. Seller 100% positive Seller 100% positive Seller 100% positive. Spark plugs were very expensive. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. However, we are not sure of the year or the exact model(s) that these apply to. The size and part numbers never appeared on the wrench. Small block Ford flexplates come in 157- and 164-tooth variants. I see very little value in the whole set. This number is unique to your vehicle and can be used to identify it in case of theft or accident. "text": "I found a 5/8 and 9/16 open end wrench with the Ford script and U.S.A. on one side and M on the other. However, there are special wrenches with several heads of varying profile sizes (2 or 3 heads on one end of the shaft). Powered by Invision Community. D1VE, C8VE and C9VE are the early internally balanced engines. Blish Mize & Silliman Hardware Co of Atchison, Kansas, Store brand for the E. C. Simmons Hardware Co. of St. Louis, Missouri, Store brand of the Van Camp Hardware Co. - Indianapolis, Indiana, Probably a store brand of the Marshall Wells Co. of Duluth, Minnesota (hardware wholesalers), Store brand for the E. C. Simmons Hardware Co., St. Louis, Missouri, Farwell Ozmum Kirk & Co. of St. Paul, Minnesota (hardware wholesalers), Janney, Semple Co. and later Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. of Minneapolis, Minnesota (hardware wholesalers), Marshall Wells Co. of Duluth, Minnesota (hardware wholesalers), Probably a store brand for Rector & Wilhelmy Co. of Omaha, Nebraska. The broken wrench probably has scrap value. These wrenches were painted medium gloss black paint. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. Regular reproductions tend to have a straight Shaft, which is ok for the users torque but not so good in hard-to-reach places. The tools with Deering and Oliver, cast into them are tractor tools. If you dont see it there, you can also check your vehicles owners manual. Vinyl Records Value: Your Old Value Records Worth a Fortune, Vintage Stiffel Lamps: Value and Price Guide, Vintage Smith Corona Typewriter: History, Models, and Value, Vintage Schwinn Bikes: [Types, Identification, and Values], Vintage Rooster Cookie Jar Identification and Value Guide. "headline":"Ford Wrench Identification", We get commissions for purchases made through links in this post. Been there, done that, earned the T-shirt! Like the oil can, adjustable wrench and screwdriver thousands of words have been written over the years concerning the T1903 pliers supplied with the Model T Ford. Thanks to Ed Gooding for supplying me with literature to these fine Ford vintage tools. T864. Ford's FE big block uses a 184-tooth flexplate that is exclusive to this engine family. The Ford supplied T1902 screwdriver has a square shank that is shorter than the wooden handle. Ford USA-M-01A-17017B Thanks Ron In I forgot to put all of the numbers in BELTCH so I will try again. It is of interest as an antique among tool collectors and is still occasionally used in practice. They provide wonderful drawings of the tools, some depicting how they were intended to be used. I/2 SAE), Initials: USS (used with size in inches of bolt diameter i.e. The overall length is 11.0 inches, and the finish is plain steel. Vintage Ford Model T or A Tools - Can anyone identify these? My wife purchased a Ford script monkey wrench (adjustable wrench) for a 1926 & 1927 Model T (info. Try contacting them via Messages to find out! Even if they were Ford tools, they are so prevalent across the countryside as to have practically 0 value as a lot of newbies find out, I can get 20 $ for a correct screw driver 60$ for the bag and depending on the jack needed for your year up to about 80 $ the other A tools are worth a few bucks each. More recently made wrenches may have a logo forged onto them. In some of their tools, premium wood such as beech and Brazilian rosewood are used to make handles due to their hard nature along with the beautiful colors. These stroker engines can even be custom neutral balanced right in the crankshaft, necessitating zero weight SFI flexplates and crankshaft balancers! Learn more. Another way to identify your Ford transmission is by looking up the vehicle identification number (VIN) in a database. Please include your contact info. The square lug on the monkey wrench under T tools is off an A model and is there to remove the filler plugs on the differential. Also included in the overall discussion of small block Fords is the 335 series engines built between 1969 and 1982. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. The other end is used to remove the nut that secures the porcelain inside the spark plug. "description":"Discussion of Ford Wrench Identification in the Tractors forum followed by comments. "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", This uncommon feature ensures its rarity and thus shoots the price tag up. Or they could come in the form of a mold. B.) One open end measuring 1"d, one boxed at 3/4"d. Used on Model A & T automobiles. In 1938, Ford changed to the H-10 plug and the plug size was 14 mm. They are either made by a forging company or a foundry so they should possess the initial or the full name of the manufacturer that produced them. Which was the sole purpose of the s-shaped wrench. Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. This tag will have information such as the model number and serial number of the transmission. Old wrench reproductions possess basic features that dont stand out which makes them somewhat unattractive to collectors, even though theyre antiques as well. In 1938, Ford changed to the H-10 plug and the plug size was 14 mm. "image": { The tire pump supplied on brass era Model T Fords was made by Bridgeport Brass company. They manufactured mainly agricultural power tools and heavy machinery as well as hand tools for these machineries such as wrenches. "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=56770", Pipe wrenches staunch water leaks, while socket wrenches, crescent wrenches, open-end wrenches, and their box- or ring-end counterparts keep machined parts in place so their moving components will run smoothly. What Torque Converter Bolt Pattern Does Ford Use? Can you tell me what it came in and from what time frame? Because their innovative style can be considered a form of art. Go to topic listing Home Does shopping on Etsy help support small businesses? This will make the wrench light come on but will be the easiest repair to take care of. As an affiliate, we earn from qualifying purchases. Map. Original Price $8.00 There should be a sticker or plate with the serial number on it. "author": { But it depends on factors such as age, the manufacturer (not always necessary), and unique design. :-). "dateModified": "2001-05-18", Small block Ford flexplates come in 157- and 164-tooth variants. One end is used to remove the spark plug from the cylinder head. Great! These were usually registered trademarks of the parent companies. $97.20, $121.50 The wrench is correct for the Model A tool kit and is also correct for N tractor. "@type": "Organization", Many sellers on Etsy offer personalized, made-to-order items. I see very little value in the whole set. The wrench is correct for the Model A tool kit and is also correct for N tractor. Model A Ford Garage. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. All in excellent condition. It is usually located near the front, right side of the case as you face it from the back of the vehicle. If you have a car, you probably know that it has a VIN, or Vehicle Identification Number. It can be identified by its two-letter code: FC. With various antique wrenches in circulation today, it would be a big miss not to identify their values before purchasing or selling. "@context":"https://schema.org", D.) Wrench Light on Ford. Given that many variations of wrenches were made (both branded and unbranded) and probably too dusty or rusty to identify. These numbers can help you identify the type of transmission in your Ford car and whether it needs any special servicing. This was also painted black. So they redesigned the wrench and named it 81A-17017. So if you notice a parent number on your antique wrench then its most likely a costly piece. Plus some of the more commonly found mold or die identification letters or numbers. What's Included (3) Air Capital Ford Wrench Set, Model# 14224. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. Todays powerful mini starters can crank the biggest engines with ease. Free shipping Free shipping Free shipping. It is a banjo-style axle as is the 8-inch. It's a 9/2/8/NAA spark plug and cylinder head wrench. I/2 OC), Initials: SAE (used with size in inches of bolt diameter i.e. Be an educational and informational resource for members to learn about Ford tools, their usage and their role in the Ford Motor Company history. 1D shows the M-Circle logo as it was presented for trademark #292,165. This could be something as simple as a loose connection or a more serious problem like a faulty sensor. That's more than I usually do. :-). 2. Screwdrivers but they are hard to tell. A good example is the craftsman speed spinner ratchet wrench which is known to cost up to $200 in the market. Transmission model (e.g. Along with the SAE sign. AM2340" (10.5" rather than the usual 7.5"). Ford was aware of this and so every new Ford came equipped with a basic tool kit. Tom Helf has generously shared photos of the tool kit from his 1911 touring which was featured as a car of the month recently here at Model T Ford Fix. Ford 9 inch rear end identification is easy and can be accomplished with nothing more than a deep socket as a "go-no-go" gauge for the bottom two retaining nuts on the center section. Co. of Peoria, Illinois. Battery Issue. As theyre best-used fastening and unfastening bolts in locomotive engines. There are several possible causes of a T-code error, but the most common one is simply a loose electrical connection. The transmission tag will typically be located on the drivers side of the transmission, near where the shifter cable attaches. There are a lot of choices when it comes to automatic shifters, and well help unpack all the options and features in our automatic shifter buyers guide. }, Yes! How to identify them the name Crafts Man is milled into the shaft of the wrench. Adjustable wrench, it looks like an old style pipe wrench and not what an adjustable wrench looks like today. ), Externally balanced via weighted flex plate and add-on hatchet weight behind damper, (Note: If unsure, check your 460 block casting numbers. With this information, you can then use online resources or manuals to further narrow down which specific transmission you have. Shop Pipe Wrenches Shop Hex Keys & Torx Keys Shop Strap Wrenches. Shipping policies vary, but many of our sellers offer free shipping when you purchase from them. The tool roll itself was made from scraps of top upholstery material. I see one Ford tool. The shallower 3/8-inch depth starter is for manual transmission use (except for T-5 five-speeds, which use the automatic depth). The B suffix wrench was used until 1948 in V8's that used the 14 mm plug. Gave ya credit didn't I? Origin not known. Most of these balancers are flat faced and will require a pulley spacer to maintain belt alignment. We also created 2.6 million jobs in the U.S.enough to employ the entire city of Houston, TX! These are usually SFI flexplates, which provide an extra layer of security when pushing the rpms at the track. Please. Thanks Ron IN, I forgot to put all of the numbers in "BELTCH" so I will try again. To me they all look to be tractor and farm equipment tools. "name": "Mike Of Mars" In most cases, a T-code error can be easily fixed and wont require major repairs. Ford wrench #M-40-17017, spark plug/head bolt combination. That Ford script wrench was made in the late 20's. So they redesigned the wrench and named it 81A-17017. Of importance to note is that there are specific engine block plates for these tooth counts. Depending on the condition of the tool and its type, a good tool can be worth a few hundred dollars. How would I know if this wrench is from the tractor, car, or truck set ? Welcome! In most cases, this will just be a minor issue that can be easily fixed by a qualified mechanic. Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford Wrench Identification, Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford Wrench Identification, Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford Wrench Identification, Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford Wrench Identification. Names, initials, and logos of the companies that included the tool with or made it available for their product. For externally balanced engines you do have the option of having your machine shop/engine builder converting to internal balance via aftermarket crankshaft upgrades or balancing with heavy metal and then using a neutral/zero balance flexplate and balancer. "userInteractionCount": 9 In either case, its important to have the car checked out by a mechanic as soon as possible to avoid further damage. One spark plug cost the equivalent of a full days wages for the average man. Basically, all branded and manufactured wrenches come with some kind of marking on their main body. So, if youre looking for a Ford truck with a few extra bells and whistles, then an XLT is probably the right choice for you. So be sure of your Fords engine internals/build history before bolting up that new flexplate (and balancer!). You can confirm tooth count with a simple measurement, the 157-tooth is 13.28 inches (call it 13-1/4 inch OD) and the 164-tooth is 14-1/4 inch OD. $45.60, $48.00 Overall good condition with remnants of chrome finish. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. Found on several Deering style wrenches either alone or with various hardware company names such as: A. J. Harwi, J. S. H. & Co. Simmons, and Wittes. } It's easy! When trying to identify a Ford transmission, the first place to look is on the transmission tag. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", If you still cant find the serial number, your last resort is to contact the manufacturer directly. The wrench would be standard equipment in 1911 as all cars were equipped with a Stewart #26 speedometer. Due to its more personalized design. Good news! And there are two in existence, which are SAE & USS. This tag will have vital information that can help identify the type of transmission, as well as other important details. Sign up for a new account in our community. The engraver misspelled Depew's name on it. Tyman I have a ford script wrench that has USA-M-17017B on it and it is a box end type. Tyman yeh, but am I REALLY correct? How to identify them you cant miss the big Deere mark milled into the shaft of the wrench. Original Price $14.95 Our global marketplace is a vibrant community of real people connecting over special goods. But what does XLT stand. There are a few specialty retailers offering reproduction block plates as well. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. Absolutely! The M on the back represents the Moore Drop Forging Company of Springfield, Massachusetts. The spark plug and cylinder head nut wrench (A-17017) was manufactured between 1928 and 1931 for the Model A tool kit. The first 01A-17017 (head nut end had a 12 point instead of 6 point opening), and then to the later common 01A-17017-B. What Flexplate Tooth Count Does a Small Block Ford Use? 15 / 20 Another special feature to look out for is the combination of profiles. That's about all I have. The wooden handle would have been painted black. By The reason behind this is that the battery's low power begins to affect the lighting system of the car, including the indicator lights. Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. While many of the items on Etsy are handmade, youll also find craft supplies, digital items, and more. A-17016 (9/16" x 5/8") is the part number. This is because Ford often switched from internal to external balance or from one balance weight spec to another throughout an engine familys history. $11.21, $14.95 No one would have considered replacing spark plugs as part of a tune up. Due to their presence in the market during the early 19th century, antique John Deere wrenches appeared a lot cruder, especially their embroidered trademark. Which could be wooden, ceramic Etc. E. Pratt Mfg. The only known Ford Tool Collectors organization worldwide! Like the oil can the T1387 adjustable wrench has been the subject of intense study, thousands of written words, and opinions. Apart from the company name, initials, and logos, you can also identify the origin of your antique wrench from its size standard markings. Especially their patented fine-tooth and round-headed ratchet which was best for handling motorcycle repairs due to its convenient design. The attached photos show 17 tools that are believed to come from either a Ford Model T or Model A tool kit. If you need to find a transmission serial number, there are a few places you can look. A.) $6.80, $8.00 To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", The LS swap is no doubt still going strong, but if youre planning to run an automatic behind your 4.8, 5.3, or 6.0L LS-powered ride, youll need to pay attention to a few items we discuss in this buyers guide. The base of the tire pump was originally a brick red color. When you input the VIN into a database, it will return results for all of the vehicles components, including the transmission. Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. These hardware companies seldom manufactured these wrenches but had them made for them by a manufacturing company and marked with there store brand. yeh, but am I REALLY correct? The Ford script was optional after April of '28. Fords two big block families, the 385-Series/Lima 429 and 460 (1968-1998), along with the popular FE series (390, 427, and 428 to name the more popular displacements built between 1958 and 1976) have different flexplates specific to these engine families and cannot be mixed with the small block Ford flexplates due to balance differences (more on that in shortly). Shallower 3/8-inch depth starter is for manual transmission use ( except for T-5 five-speeds, which use automatic. 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